Bharat Gaurav Dr Laxmi Vyas - Social Worker Europe
Dr. Lakshmi Vyas is an outstanding leader cum achiever and works tirelessly against all odds for the community in all the above-mentioned organizations. Her schedule in the community sphere is 24x7 days throughout. She is a soft-spoken, empathetic, compassionate, and sincere person. Her involvement in the public sphere, schools, colleges, religious centers, and councils hardly leaves any space for herself. It is 24 x 7 days’ work. For a woman to achieve all these accolades in Britain is not a miracle, it is her hard work, dedication, commitment, and enthusiasm to be helpful to the needy.
Dr. Lakshmi Vyas is one of the first women to have done a Ph.D. on a rare topic i.e. NOISE POLLUTION which is one of the important issues in all the cities of India. Recently Oxford University invited her to present a paper on comparative noise scenarios in Mumbai and western cities London, Paris, and New York, which was received very well.
She is Environmentally conscious and observes World Environment Day and World Earth day, and advocates for reducing AIR, SOIL & light pollution.
Her titles are:
- President Hindu Forum of Europe
- Visiting Professor at AUSN (American University of Sovereign Nations)
- Women’s Faith Leader at Religion for Peace for Europe
- Hindu Leader at European Council of Religious Leaders
- SACRE Member (Standing Advisory committee of Royal Borough of Greenwich (SACRE):
- Executive Member of UK Women Network: Networking and connecting with women from various walks of life. Organizing Women’s Day celebration in the Parliament, marathon walks for charity, and helping needy women with employment advice and social issues.
- Active working member of IARF- International Association of Religious freedom
- Advisory Member to Hindu Matters in Britain
- Member of UK Census – Hindu Advisor and more.
Dr. Vyas speaks, reads, and writes seven languages (English Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati, Tamil, Malayalam, and Bhojpuri) She can understand Urdu, Punjabi, Kannada, and learning Spanish.
Not only this but Dr. Vyas also authored three books
- Noise Pollution, 2. Urban Planning, 3. Environment and Commerce-text book for F.Y.B.com. She has to her credit more than 40 research papers published in well-known International Journals.
Bharat Gaurav Dinesh Gupta - Bagman of India
Mr. Dinesh Gupta, President of Sekawati Group of companies better known as ‘BAGMAN OF INDIA’ a title given to him by prestigious FORBES magazine to recognize his unmatched contribution to saving the environment for the last 30 years by making eco-friendly cotton bags to replace single-use plastic bags which are the major concern for everybody now since single-use plastic bags are only used for one time and they can’t be used again and also they are not recyclable and biodegradable. Shopping bags made from 100% organic cotton are not only eco-friendly but also biodegradable and durable to use for a long time which saves our environment in a big way. Mr. Gupta has made more than 1.5 billion environment-friendly cotton bags till now which could be a world record by a single individual.
Mr. Dinesh Gupta who is a science graduate and among the first computer programmer in India started his business journey in 1991 when he decided to a business something different which contribute to Society as well and started an export business of eco-friendly cotton bags with no money in hand which was a major challenge but with his determination,
hard work and confidence he was able to get his first order and has proved that business can be done without money also and this way Mr Gupta success journey began in 1991 which continues and with their Son, Daugther and Daughter-in-law joined the business, he can make more and more eco-friendly bags helping to eliminate single-use plastic bags and saving the environment in a big way. As his company tagline says, We do business but take care of the environment too.
Mr Gupta has been recognized by the various international and national news channels, print media and magazines, govt of India and film actors, and actresses recognize his contribution to saving the environment. He is invited by many leading news channels as an expert speaker and motivates youth and gives them tips to get success in their life.
Apart from saving the environment, Mr Gupta also contributed to women's empowerment since cotton bags are mainly made by women and Mr Gupta has given employment to thousands of women who also work from home and get extra income while taking care of their families. During Covid times, it was a boon for women who make cotton bags from home as they could earn good money when everything was closed.
Mr Gupta is actively involved in Social work and member of different organizations as follows :
-Chief Advisor-Lion Club Jaipur Hawamahal, Lions Club International
-Chief organizing Secretary-Association of Garment Exporters (AGES)
-Chairman Legal and Taxation committee of Garment Exporters Association (GEAR)
-Chairman Export Promotion Committee, Employer Association of Rajasthan (EAR)
-Executive member-Federation of Rajasthan Trade and Industry (FORTI)
Bharat Gaurav Amrit Lal Bansal - Enviromentalist - Planted 15 Lakh Trees
Sh. Amrit Lal Bansal was born on October 6, 1950, at Jaitu, Distt. Faridkot, Punjab, India.
He was appointed as Executive Officer in the Municipal Administration of Punjab in 1978 and served as such from 1978 to 2008. During this period he was instrumental in the development of the new towns of SAS Nagar (Mohali), Zirakpur, Kharar, and Anandpur Sahib.
He has condensed his vast experience of life and dealing with the public in his book From Stagnation to Vibrant Living which is available in 140 countries of the world and has motivated many corporate CEOs, Judges, Administrators, and Students.
Dr Amrit Lal Bansal National Convener, Green India Movement, is a renowned environmentalist who is have played an active role in the construction of a large number of public parks and plantation of trees since 1979.
As early as 1979 he had constructed 4 public parks in a small town like Goniana where he was posted as Executive Officer, Municipal Council Goniana and since then he had not looked back. Thereafter he joined as Executive Officer in the Notified Area CommitteeS.A.S.Nagar( Mohali) where he had put extraordinary special efforts to construct 170 neighborhood parks in Mohali city and dotted the entire town with a large number of parks. He also constructed Boughenvillea Park in Phase5, Mohali, and Rose Garden Park in Phase 3B-2, Mohali. He also got constructed a big Leisure Valley Park in Sector -62 spreading over 55 acres which is the most beautiful park in the Tricity and large residents of Chandigarh visit this park daily and enjoy its serene atmosphere.
Dr Amrit Lal Bansal has distributed more than 50,000 food packets in COVID Wave 1 in Punjab, J&K, and other states and has organized about 25 COVID Vaccination camps at different places throughout the country.
Besides the construction of a large number of Parks in Mohali 5 lac trees were also planted on the roadsides stretching upto404 km in the Mohali town. The open spaces were developed into green belts and a large number of trees were planted in the green belts. Similarly in Nangal town 5/6 public parks were developed and a large number of trees were planted in the town. In the year 2020, a large number of Bel trees were planted all over India and all the States. There has been a rapid rise in atmospheric temperature, the water level has gone down, the air pollution has increased, and the glaciers are melting because of the release of carbon dioxide in heavy quantities all over the globe both due to industrialization and the increase of vehicles on the roadside besides due to the burning of coal in factories and thermal plants.
The natural balance of biodiversity has been lost in the ocean, air, and water and many species of birds and animals have gone extinct. The only way to save this planet is to increase the forest area on Earth which is dwindling fast by greedy human activity who is quite unmindful of the impending extinction of its race from the planet. So it is the duty of all of us to save this planet by planting at least one tree every year said, Dr. Bansal. Dr. AmritLal Bansal National Convener, Green India Movement has planted trees in all the states of India on a large scale and has motivated thousands for tree plantation.
He has engaged individuals, and governmental and non-governmental organizations to plant a large number of trees everywhere. All the State Pollution Control Boards, All the State Local Govt. Depts and other many social organizations have been motivated to plant a large number of trees and a massive effort has been put to do so by Bansal.
With his tireless efforts, more than 15 lakh trees have been planted so far in all the States of India and the work to plant more trees is still being continued with full force. The efforts are being made to plant a large number of trees in every town of India in all the districts and Tehsils and go down to the village level. Dr. Bansal hopes to continue the work of tree plantation in the times to come in the future also with the same dedication and to continue to motivate people from across all the strata of society to continue the work of tree plantation and help save the Mother Earth.
Bharat Gaurav Mr Nirmal Jain
Nirmal Jain is the C.M.D. of the Jain group and The Vice-chairman of Chanakya Indian Administrative Service academy where 7200 students have been trained for the Indian Administrative academy. His professional track record is equally outstanding. He really has such a vast area of his active performance and contribution which is indescribable in one area.
Not only heading organizations or groups but working to expand small, ignored areas and giving recognition to them and has also contributed to making his name renowned in various areas these are:
Works and achievements in the field of Journalism.
He worked as treasurer with Hindustan News Paper Agency. His presence with Uday India Patrika (Hindi and English) has been from the time of establishment to take this to a great height. Apart from this he had worked with Ronak times, Indraprasth press CLUB, and attended the Press summit of SAARC Countries as a Chief Guest.
President “All India WELFARE Society”
Mr. Nirmal Jain is actively working with this organization which is solely based on welfare since its establishment.
In the field of women empowerment, the society started the “BETI BACHAO, SRISHTI BACHAO”, campaign and started organizing the program “Kurja” where all the women who are renowned personalities in their respective fields are being felicitated.
Society is to give recognition to women and to make them empowered with safety, power, and equality.
Society made this Event “Kurja” by inviting great personalities like Ila Arun, the very famous singer, and International athlete “Milkha Sigh”. Not only this, but Kurja also organized “Ek sham shahido ke Naam” to reward the sacrifice of our national heroes such as Martyr Satbir Singh.
Loktrantra Raksha manch is a source of social welfare
Under these dice, misa prisoners get freedom recognition and benefits through the pension scheme to have a blissful life that fulfills their basic needs and makes them independent by accomplishing the basic requirements of misa prisoners.
Mr. Nirmal Jain is a great man with great thinking and believes in “Human service as service to god” and with passion and dedication, he worked for the welfare of needy people altruistically. Mr. Nirmal Jain created a Guinness World Record by inviting 1000 “Betiyaa” at Birla Auditorium by honoring them with Saafa where Respected Central Minister Mr. Jual Oram and Mr. A.k. Mishra were invited to honor these girls.
With his great efforts, he is bringing the big business groups & the businessman to adjoin with the social, religious & political groups which is a great effort to bring harmony into these three parts of Indian society.
Mr. Nirmal Jain is a proven leader in social work, research, education, and politics. He has served different social and religious groups under the name of Jain Group, Chanakya Indian Administrative Service Academy, All India Welfare Society, Uday India, Rotary International Club, Lions Club, Loktantra Raksha Manch, and many more. His scholarly work has focused attention on organizational culture and climate, with areas of interest on at-risk children and families. Mr. Nirmal Jain has a special interest in the minority overrepresentation and service disparity among children. He is active in the community of social work and his research has been published nationwide.
Bharat Gaurav Mr Upendra J. Chivukula - Deputy Mayor - NJ
Chivukula has served as a Councilman and as Deputy Mayor, and Mayor of Franklin Township.
Commissioner and former Deputy Speaker Upendra Chivukula were born in Nellore, Andhra Pradesh, he received the Government of India’s Merit-cum-Means scholarship to study Electrical Engineering.
Chivukula worked in the industry for 35 years and entered public service in 1997. He co-authored three books on supplier management and four books on best industry practices. His recent book “The 3rd Way” addresses economic inequality.
Chivukula is currently serving as Commissioner of the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities since October 2014 when he was appointed by Governor Chris Christie. He has served seven terms in the NJ State Assembly representing the 17th district and also as Deputy Speaker: Chairman of the Telecommunications and Utilities, and Vice-Chair of the Homeland Security Committees; Founder of the Science and Technology and the World Languages and International Education Legislative Caucuses; Member of the NJ Commission on Science and Technology; Asian American Study Foundation; Health Information Technology Commission.
Chivukula has served as a Councilman and as Deputy Mayor, and Mayor of Franklin Township.
Chivukula’s public service includes serving as — an Elector for the Presidential Electoral College; Member of the New Jersey State Board of Social Work Examiners; Board of State Canvassers; Democratic National Convention Delegate; Asian American Study Foundation
National Political Activities — Indian-American Community· With the Association of Indians in America (AIA), organized the installation of a Marble Bench and Chairs at Cheesequake State Park, NJ to commemorate Mahatma Gandhi Jayanthi and UN Declaration of International Day of Nonviolence
Bharat Gaurav Dr Swati Lodha - Doctorate in Women Entrepreneurship
With a Doctorate in Women's Entrepreneurship, she is passionate about creativity and innovation.
Dr. Swati Lodha is an author of Amazon Bestseller Book titled “Don’t Raise Your Children, Raise Yourself” (2016) and other Bestselling Books like “Come On! Get Set Go” (2002) and “Why Women are What They Are” (2004)
She has been Dean, Faculty of Management Studies, JNU, and Director — AIMSR, Mumbai.
She founded her first venture SWASH Pvt. Ltd 17 years ago which offers Training Courses to Youth, Professionals & Women.
A recipient of many prestigious awards “The Suryadutta National Award” “The Veer Durgadas Award” “and Rashtriya Rajbhasha Puraskar”, she has mentored more than 10,000 individuals from different walks of life.
Her latest venture “LIFE LEMONADE” offers Corporate Training Workshops under four verticals: Life Transformation, Women Empowerment, Parenting, and Leadership & Motivation.
She is married to noted Actor-Poet, Shailesh Lodha. She lives in Mumbai with her husband and daughter.
Bharat Gaurav Meera Gandhi - Founder The Giving Back Foundation - USA
Meera is the CEO and Founder of The Giving Back Foundation. She is an International community leader, committed humanitarian, and philanthropist dedicated to solutions to human suffering and deprivation around the globe. The Foundation is based in NY and also has offices in India, HK, and London.
Transformational Education of the girl child is the primary mission of the Giving Back Foundation.
The second arm is to act as a platform for positive dialogue and debate for young people to promote positive social change.
The three-arm announced this year is the spiritual arm “mindfulness “. To the end — a yoga all-day camp will commence on 17th July 2016 in upstate NY, moving to other destinations in the USA, India, and across the globe.
The Giving Back Foundation supports many entities with scholarships and grants which have been very carefully selected, and most often with 5-year commitments. The children of St. Michael’s School in India are being provided with meals on a daily basis and have had their entire school and its grounds refurbished as part of the 5-year commitment of The Giving Back Foundation.
The Giving Back Foundation and Meera Gandhi have received numerous awards over the year from all over the world. But most recently — She has received the Humanitarian Award of the Year from the Mayor’s Office of the City of NY in 2015, The Ellis Island Gold Medal Award in 2015, the Marc Anthony Maestro cares Humanitarian award in 2015 which President Bill Clinton was award last week in February of 2016.
Bharat Gaurav Late Rabindranath Tagore - An icon of Indian Culture
Rabindranath Tagore was an icon of Indian culture. He was a poet, philosopher, musician, writer, and educationist. Rabindranath Tagore became the first Asian to become a Nobel laureate when he won the Nobel Prize for his collection of poems, Gitanjali, in 1913. He was popularly called Gurudev and his songs were popularly known as Rabindra-sangeet. Two songs from his Rabindra-sangeet canon are now the national anthems of India and Bangladesh: the Jana Gana Mana and the Amar Shonar Bangla. Rabindranath Tagore was born on May 7, 1861, in a wealthy Brahmin family in Calcutta.
He met William Rothenstein, a noted British painter, in London. Rosenstein was impressed by the poems, made copies, and gave them to Yeats and other English poets. Yeats was enthralled. He later wrote the introduction to Gitanjali when it was published in September 1912 in a limited edition by the India Society in London. Rabindranath Tagore was awarded Nobel Prize for Literature in 1913 for Gitanjali. In 1915 he was knighted by the British King George V. In 1919, following the Jallianwala Bagh massacre, Tagore renounced his knighthood. He was a supporter of Gandhi Ji but he stayed out of politics. He was opposed to nationalism and militarism as a matter of principle, and instead promoted spiritual value and the creation of a new world culture founded in multi-culturalism, diversity, and tolerance. Unable to gain ideological support for his views, here tired into relative solitude. Between the years 1916 and 1934, he traveled widely.
In 1921, Rabindranath Tagore established Viswabharati University. He gave all his money from Nobel Prize and royalty money from his books to this University. Tagore was not only a creative genius, he was quite knowledgeable of Western culture, especially Western poetry and science too. Tagore had a good grasp of modern-post-Newtonian-physics and was well able to hold his own in a debate with Einstein in 1930 on the newly emerging principles of quantum mechanics and chaos.
His meetings and tape-recorded conversations with his contemporaries such Albert Einstein and H. G. Wells, epitomize his brilliance. In 1940 Oxford University arranged a special ceremony in Santiniketan and awarded Rabindranath Tagore with a Doctorate of Literature. Gurudev Rabindranath Tagore passed away on August 7, 1941, in his ancestral home in Calcutta.
Rabindranath Tagore wrote both the words and the music for what would (some16 years after his death) become the National Anthem of India (Jana Gana Mana).
Patriotism: Rabindranath was not only a great poet. He was also a great lover of his country. In 1919 occurred the shameful Jalinwallabag massacre in Amritsar, where innocent men, women, and children were killed by the British. Rabindranath immediately gave up his Knighthood. He also props he sied that such brutality was sure to end the British rule in India very soon.
Viswa-Bharati and Santiniketan: One of the greatest achievements of Tagore was the creation of Viswa-Bharati at Santi Niketan near Bolpur in West Bengal. His aim was to combine the cultural ideals of the East and the West. He was a seminent in painting, music, acting, and dancing, as in poetry. He took part in his plays and recited his poems with sweetness and charm. Therefore, he introduced the cultivation of different arts in Viswa-Bharati. It has now become a famous Indian University.
His message: The poet toured almost all around the world. Everywhere he received the love and respect of all, the rich and the poor, the high and the low. Wherever he went, people came to him to hear his message of love and hope. He was also a religious man. He looked like a saint and lived like a saint. Gandhiji regarded him as the greatest master of culture and sanctity, peace and love; so he called the poet his Gurudeva.
His death: Full of glory and honors the poet passed away on August 7, 1941, at his ancestral home in Calcutta (now Kolkata). His death was mourned all over the world. His centenary has been celebrated throughout India and other Countries in 1961. Many academies and libraries have been established in the name of the immortal Rabindranath to celebrate his birth centenary.
Bharat Gaurav Sumeeti Mittal - Pratham Shiksha
Sumeeti Mittal is the Founder & Trustee of Pratham Shiksha; a Jaipur Rajasthan (India) based charitable organization promoting basic education for underprivileged children living in slum areas of Jaipur, Rajasthan. She has been recently awarded the 100 Women Achievers Award by the Ministry of Women and Child Welfare, Government of India.
The major innovative initiatives of Pratham Shiksha, include Flexi timing classes for the students. The flexible hours help students to work during the day and study in their free hours. This way they are able to earn a livelihood and continue their studies also. Recently the school has collaborated with a private hospital to impart nursing training to around 100 girls and boys. This is in line with the Government’s initiative of Skill India, to develop the skills of people and empower them for a better life. The nursing students will be provided with certifications from the government and will be eligible for nursing posts in both public and private hospitals.
An abroad trip to the US made her ponder over the thought that even the underprivileged children in developed countries go to school and are educated but not so in India. This inspired Sumeeti to start ‘Pratham Shiksha’. The school which started in a garage portion of her house has now evolved to become a full-fledged school up to 8th grade in a rented premise with seven classrooms and other amenities along with conveyance facilities for students. To date, 3000+ students have been educated at Pratham Shiksha. She plans to expand the student base and upgrade the school to the 10th standard. The school also runs vocational classes of basic home services like electrical, plumbing, and stitching courses for boys, girls, and their family members. These courses will equip children with skills to move ahead in life and earn a livelihood for themselves.
Pratham Shiksha has been recognized at Make In India Awards for Excellence — 2015 under NGO Category for its contribution to social development.
In addition, Mittal is also Co-founder & Director of Pratham Software (P) Ltd, a Jaipur-based global IT Service Company focussing on software development, IT consulting and offering offshore outsourcing solutions to enterprises worldwide. She has also set up Robo Galaxy, an e-learning portal and robotic lab catering to students from Grade 3 to Grade 10.
She has been instrumental in founding V-Technos, a global IT training services company focussing on software training and development. V- Technos is imparting a real-world training experience & assist in enhancing skills through intensive hands-on exercises under the guidance of expert instructors. The focus is to provide students with real-life software project experience so that they upscale themselves to the next level of execution of the project thus transforming their skills into quality software delivery.
Sumeeti's zeal to learn new things stimulated her to get PMP certification from the Project Management Institute, Inc. She actively participates in various industry-academia programs organized by institutes and colleges in Jaipur. She interacts with students about emerging trends in corporate culture and the IT industry. She also delivered lectures at International Robotics Conference, Russia in 2014.
A widely traveled and noted speaker, she is on the board of various social forums. She is part of the ‘Mentoring Walk’ group helping her mentees by discussing and resolving issues faced in their personal and professional lives. She has also served on the governing body of FICCI Ladies Organization (FLO), Jaipur Chapter. She is also involved in guiding women entrepreneurs through the Swayam group in setting up and growing their businesses. Sumeeti is Chairperson of Yuva Sanskriti Sansthan, the women's wing. The institution works for the upliftment of the backward sections of society. They organize mass marriage ceremonies for low-income groups and conduct blood donation camps, computer literacy courses, and summer camps for students offering various skill-based short-term courses. The purpose of these initiatives is to help people in raising their standard of living and get respectable jobs.
Puneet Mittal, Sumeeti’s husband, a B.Arch. from MNIT, is the Founder, MD, and CEO of Pratham Software and has always supported them in all her endeavors. He himself is also associated with various professional and charitable organizations including TIE, MNIT Alumni, etc. He feels passionately for society and pursues avenues that can contribute to making this world a more equitable society to live in.
Awards & Honours
1) Awarded among 100Women Achievers by the Ministry of Women and Child Welfare, Government of India. Attended lunch and felicitation ceremony hosted by President of India Sh. Pranab Mukherjee at Rashtrapati Bhavan on 22 Jan 2016.
2) Pratham Shiksha has been recognized at Make In India Awards for Excellence — 2015 under NGO Category for its contribution to social development. The award was presented by the Hon. Governor of Gujrat Sh Kalraj Mishra.
3) Honoured with the top 100 successful women in Rajasthan in an initiative by NGO Tammana an event called ‘Tamanna Udaan Ki’.
4) She has been felicitated by Mayor Jyoti Khandelwal on Women’s day for her outstanding contribution to society.
5) Honoured with “Vivekanand Sammaan” by Rajasthan Yuva Chhatra Sansthan and Nehru Yuva Kendra.
6) Awarded as “Women of the Future Award 2016”. The award ceremony is conducted by First News Channel and FICCI Ladies Organization.
7) She was a part of the Speaker Panel at the Third National Conference on Youth 2025 at Jaipuriya Institute of Management, Jaipur.
Bharat Gaurav Arunachal Muruganantham - PADMAN
From a small village in Coimbatore, INDIA came a man who revolutionized menstrual hygiene. He is a household name in many villages and among youth. In a country where Menstruation is taboo and only 12% of women use sanitary pads, he came forward with innovation to break the taboo. He is the inventor of the world’s first Low-Cost Sanitary Pad Making Machine. It all started when he found his wife using unhygienic collecting filthy rags and newspapers to use during Menstruation.
Troubled by this, he started designing experimental pads. He wanted to provide a hygiene product for her and the rest is history. He tried the pads himself and he is called Menstrual Man. Initially, he made pads out of cotton, but these were rejected by his wife and sisters. Eventually, they stopped co-operating with him and refused to be the test subjects for his innovations. He realized that the raw materials cost ₹10 (14¢ US), but the end product sold for 40 times that price. He looked for female volunteers who could test his inventions, but most were too shy to discuss their menstrual issues with him. He started testing it on himself, using a bladder with animal blood but became the subject of ridicule when the “sanitary pad” was discovered in his village. As menstruation was a taboo subject in India, it left him ostracized by his community and family. He distributed his products free to girls in a local medical college, hoping that they would give him feedback.
It took him two years to discover that the commercial pads used cellulose fibers derived from pine bark wood pulp. The fibers helped the pads absorb while retaining shape. Imported machines that made the pads cost ₹35 million (US$490,000). he devised a low-cost machine that could be operated with minimal training. He sourced the processed pine wood pulp from a supplier in Mumbai, and the machines would grind, de-fibrate, press and sterilize the pads under ultraviolet light before packaging them for sale. The machine costs ₹65,000 (US$900).
He works with women groups and self-help groups across the world. His model is for the women by the women. Muruganantham’s invention is widely praised as a key step in changing women’s lives in India. The machine creates jobs and income for many women, and affordable pads enable many more women to earn their livelihood during menstruation. In addition to his own outreach, Muruganantham’s work has also inspired many other entrepreneurs to enter this area, including some who propose to use waste banana fiber or bamboo for the purpose.
This brought him widespread accolades He was featured as one of Time Magazine’s 100 Influential People of the world in the year 2014 along with Mr. Barack Obama, Mr. Narendra Modi, Mr. Vladimir Putin, and Mr. Pope Francis, Ms. Hillary Clinton, Mr. Jack Ma, and many leaders.